I'm thrilled to be here and I really appreciate this time with you and the opportunity to chat and dive in. So thank you.

Yes. Well, it's such a great question, Reese. I think it's one of the questions that answers easily and lives hard. It's easy for me to say, and I really believe it, that when we set an intention to be more deeply connected, to listen more deeply, to tune our senses so that we are more aware, to open our hearts so that we have heart wisdom that has a different kind of intelligence than our rational logical thinking brain.

Two things about being lost for as long as I was it's not normal to feel as lost as long as I was and I know some people have felt that for even longer in their life but like you don't have to feel like that. Actually like you can feel found like you have found something and it has found you and there are ways to get to it and I would like love to help people figure that out and I hope that that's what I also get to do on top of functional medicine.

I will try not to go off too hard, but I think there are a lot of flaws in the five stages. They were originally developed as the five stages of like grieving your own death. Her research was with kind of death and dying and they weren't meant to be stages of grief or for those of us who are mourning the loss of someone else. And I think it becomes kind of dangerous, honestly, I was trying to decide dangerous is too strong a word, but I don't think it is because what happens is a lot of people think they're doing it wrong. If they're not hitting those five stages in order and they're not making progress, then they think they're grieving wrong. And that's just not true. There's no wrong way to grieve.

There still is good in the world and if I can make a small contribution to that then that makes me happy but it's also, you know just personally, like you said, when you can actually you know make someone's life a little better even if it's small it's the opposite of a vicious cycle yeah what they say kindness is contagious.

Yeah, that's a great question. And I think my response to that is, it comes back to that negative self-talk echo chamber. We don't, some of these big decisions are very, very difficult to make by yourself. And so to say there weren't very honest, raw, nervous conversations with my wife, and those two days that I had been back to work would be a lie. We were talking from the instant I got home till the time we went to bed those two days

Uh, as me personally, as a Christian, I just have to accept that we only know in part and he knows ultimately in whole. But my theory is that he is utilizing the quantum field where he is literally created everything. And guys, I'm going to give you a perfect example of why I think this. Steve Jobs in the 1980s had the idea for the iPhone.

I think one of the most important things is to go back to the earth and listen to the land and remember who we are as children of the earth and this incredible gift of life. And it all seems so simple, like we should know these things, but the fact is we're not usually connected to them or it's not even something we talk about on a regular basis whatsoever.

I've always been curious about stuff. So, you know, when I left the film industry and started a scuba certification and training agency, it's like, I was curious about how can I parlay all of what I've done over my lifetime into an education program that happens to be around scuba, right? So a lot of it is curiosity.

I have it on a sticky note and it's C -L -W -O -T, which just sounds kind of funny. It's like kilowatt and it's care less what others think. And I wrote, and it's funny because I wrote it as an acronym because I didn't want anyone to see it, which is like ironic. But I share this now when I go do talks to organizations, especially if it's groups of women, I share this because I was like, care less what others think.

That self-growth journey. I think that's something that people don't often go through enough which is why they do have you know they attach themselves to these physical and external things yeah external things because they aren't able to reach into themselves and just like I said be comfortable with yourself.

If everything means nothing, that means that everything means everything. Every moment is super important and the only moment that really matters is this one and this one and this one and this one. Yes, and forever and always.

I think when I conceptualize of awe I think of this as a very internal experience that it's something that I am stepping into within myself appreciating other things. Where does that shift come in to make it also about connecting with the external? It comes in because our sense of self, some people call it the egoic self, becomes smaller when we access the emotion of awe - so imagine yourself going into the emotion of awe and connecting with a timeless vast expansive place and what happens to you as you connect and your sense of self your sense of the world expands expands expands.

There are people who I work with who are not on the creative team. Does that mean they're not creative? No, but I think sometimes they forget that they are because they don't have that label.

I was really good in math growing up and it's like I went into the arts but it's like I wish someone had, I mean allow me more freedom within mathematics to like... to really, I think at the time as a kid, you kind of think these mathematical equations, they're fixed and they're unchanging, and you can be really good at systematically solving these problems. But I was never really creatively thinking about it, even though I'm pretty sure I would have had the potential to do it, somebody would have said to me, like, you can create new formulas for things.

People out there, if there's nothing else that you take from me being here, you should try therapy if you haven't before, because it is the most amazing thing that I ever did for myself.

The ego wants us to be hard on ourselves and not take care of ourselves and focus on everybody else. And not even in a loving way - it's just like what did they think of me what does this person want from me what can I do for them in order to receive this? Letting the ego go has been probably the biggest and hardest part of this journey because the ego loves suffering.

I love seeing how artists individually like interpret each card. Some artists like to do their own versions of like the Rider Waite deck but then other artists will design the card in a way that kind of like either semi-alters or expands on the meaning of the card and I

love that because I can be pulled to a certain deck for a certain reading for someone and it will have been like necessary for me to use that deck because I'll get a certain message from like the artwork in that deck.

Isn't it funny how everybody kind of processes and copes in different ways? Some people need dancing and some people just need to like lay in bed and cry and sometimes, like you, you need both. You need them at different times for different things and there's a time and place for everything.

Having people learn their (astrological) charts is all about awareness because there are usually elements of strife, discomfort, the parts of ourselves that we don't like to look at but are in there and it's about awareness because once you become aware of those things inside of you you have greater choice in how you make decisions.